Thank you very much.
There's one other statement this witness made. A statement was made as a result of a conversation that was overheard by a lawful police wiretap. I think the speaker was a Mr. Alfonso Caruana, who I think is spending 21 years in a jail in Italy. He basically said that the reason a lot of organized criminals, particularly the Italian Mafioso and others, come to Canada, is that they don't go to jail for very long here, that we're a soft touch when it comes to our sentencing regime, compared to other nations.
But we've had numbers and numbers of witnesses who have come here to tell us that's not true, that we're becoming like the United States, that we're putting too many people away in our jails, that mandatory minimum sentences don't work, and that what we need more is crime prevention, more socio-economic policies, etc.--