I'm not condoning crime. None of us here are. We understand that it's bad. We are the ones who listen to the news and hear about the stabbings every weekend here. But I just would like to caution you to consider that most of them, whether they're adults by age, cognitively they're not. They're functioning around age 13 to 16. There's lots and lots of FASD in this province. There are lots of huge cognitive deficits, learning disabilities, trauma-related stuff. To stick them in a regular penal institution or environment, we are breeding a stronger, better criminal.
They need intervention and they need help.