Evidence of meeting #9 for Justice and Human Rights in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was gang.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Kimberly Fussey  Director, Inland Enforcement, Prairie Region, Canada Border Services Agency
Robert Bonnefoy  Warden, Stony Mountain Institution, Correctional Service Canada
John Ferguson  Officer in Charge, Drugs and Integrated Organized Crime, D Division, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Robert Bazin  Officer in Charge, Border Integrity, D Division, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Clive Weighill  Chief of Police, Saskatoon Police Service
Jim Poole  Winnipeg Police Service
Tim Van der Hoek  Senior Project Manager, Preventive Security and Intelligence, National Headquarters, Correctional Service Canada
Nick Leone  Winnipeg Police Service

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Conservative

Brent Rathgeber Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

And quickly, Manitoba.

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Cst Nick Leone

We also work with the Department of Justice. Once they officially become witnesses, the Department of Justice foots their bill for their relocation, any movement or anything like that.

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Conservative

Brent Rathgeber Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

Thank you so much.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Thank you. We're at the end of our time.

I'll ask Chief Weighill one last question.

The testimony you gave in your initial statement seemed to indicate you weren't in favour of any tougher sanctions against gang members, organized crime members. You put a lot of emphasis on the provision of resources for the social services that would allow young offenders, the ones who have been integrated into the low-level gangs, to get out or prevent them from getting in because we'd provide alternatives.

Is that a correct reflection of the impression you left? Or would you support tougher targeted sentences against the high-level gang members provided sufficient resources were applied to the entry level?

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Chief of Police, Saskatoon Police Service

Chief Clive Weighill

I support some stricter measures. There's no doubt about that. The point I was trying to make earlier is that the social contributors are driving a lot of this, and as a society, we have to spend some resources on this.

There's no doubt that some criminals need these interventions. We need some stricter penalties for those who are involved in the trade already. My hope is that in the future we can restrict many people from getting involved in gangs. But there's no doubt that we do need strict measures for some of these gang members who are already in gangs. We have to react to it now, and we have to take measures.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

We've heard from panel after panel that we have to learn how to distinguish between those who need tougher sentences and those who need guidance early on in their lives, who need to be given opportunities in order to avoid a lifetime of crime. So thank you for all of that.

Thank you to all of our witnesses. In the next couple of months we'll likely produce a report, which I hope will include numerous recommendations on how Canada can move forward in terms of fighting organized crime.

Again, thank you to all of you.

The meeting is adjourned.