Evidence of meeting #11 for Justice and Human Rights in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was terrorist.
A recording is available from Parliament.
NDP
Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL
May I comment on clause 6?
We'd be opposing clause 6 for the reasons stated, because it incorporates the list of countries. The same would be applied to clause 7 and clause 9, so I don't need to repeat that. Without the necessity of a recorded vote, I want to let the record show that we're opposed to clauses 6, 7, and 9 because of the reference to the list in those clauses. We will support clause 8.
(Clause 6 agreed to)
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie
We're at clause 7 and Liberal amendment number 9.
Mr. Cotler.
(On clause 7)
Liberal
Irwin Cotler Liberal Mount Royal, QC
Mr. Chairman, I would move that clause 7 be amended by replacing lines 2 to 5 on page 7 with the following:
used for a commercial activity, terrorist activity or the support of terrorism.
Again, Mr. Chairman, it is for the purposes of making the civil remedy more effective and for ensuring that the state sponsor of terrorism and their agencies are more effectively held liable, and to seek to implement the overall nature and purpose of this legislation on behalf of the victims of terror.
NDP
Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL
We would support that amendment. That effectively removes the list of foreign states but provides that property used for a commercial activity, terrorist activity, or the support of terrorism would be subject to that particular section.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie
Seeing no other intervenors, we'll call the vote on Liberal amendment number 9.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
Mr. Chair, I don't know if it was my vote that wasn't counted in that, but I raised my hand and I put it down for those in favour.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie
Honestly, I didn't see it. The clerk didn't see it. Please keep your hand up if you're intending to vote.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
I'm sorry, Mr. Chair.
We're moving close, but certainly if that's the condition.... Was it my vote that was not counted?
(Amendment negatived)
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie
So the amendment fails, and we now have Liberal amendment number 10.
Liberal
Irwin Cotler Liberal Mount Royal, QC
Mr. Chairman, I move that clause 7 be amended by replacing lines 13 to 16 on page 7 with the following:
rendered in any proceedings that relate to terrorist activity or the support of terrorism.
Again, the purpose of the amendment is to render more effective the civil remedy involved.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie
Thank you.
Mr. Cotler, I understand there is a discrepancy between the English and the French.
Liberal
Irwin Cotler Liberal Mount Royal, QC
That is correct, Mr. Chairman. I understand there is a discrepancy between the English and the French.
Conservative
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie
Thank you.
Those in favour of the amendment--the English version of the amendment.
NDP
Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC
Amendment of the amendment.
(Amendment negatived)
(Clause 7 agreed to)
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie
Clause 7 is carried, and the committee is now out of time.
The meeting is adjourned.