Thank you very much for the question, Mr. Scott, and welcome to the committee.
I believe that section 13, as I said, directly infringes and erodes significantly on freedom of expression in our country. I believe not only that the implementation of section 13 has been flawed, but also there's the overarching approach to limiting our freedom of expression, as section 13 does.
Really the argument isn't whether or not section 13 infringes upon paragraph 2(b) of the charter. The opposition discussion has primarily been based around burden of proof and the aspect of to what extent it should be limited. But the fact remains—and I haven't seen it contested through any of the debate in the House or over the last several years—that section 13 provides a significant infringement upon the freedom of expression in our country. I believe these matters are serious matters and should be dealt with under the Criminal Code of Canada.