The decisions that have been made by the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal are unassailable. One of the great legal clichés is that justice not only has to be done—which I believe it has been in every section 13 case, and I'd be willing to take any case to appeal—but it has to be seen to be done. I don't want to repeat all of it, but the problem is there have been so many problems getting there. It's really important for human rights legislation to be in a position where the public supports it. It has to represent a central Canadian value.
When we talk about Weimar laws, there were all sorts of great laws in the Weimar Republic that weren't honoured. It's better to have laws that are honoured. We're hoping the government will see fit, when looking at section 319, to make it much stronger and by far the more effective remedy, recognizing that there has to be a balance now. If the government has decided, in light of the procedural concerns, to make this change, there has to be something on the other side of that scale.