Thank you, Mr. Chair.
And thank you, Mr. Richards, for being here today and bringing this forward.
As a member from British Columbia, and one who has relatives in law enforcement there who were involved in trying to stem that riot that night, I am keenly aware of how dangerous things became that night. I was here in Ottawa watching the television and was concerned that my relatives who are police officers were going to be harmed. I don't think anybody who was watching that—or who was in the midst of it—would have seen it as anything but a riot and not a peaceful protest. I am also aware since that time of the difficulties of identification that Vancouver is facing. I can only assume that's true in other cities that have been touched by this.
My colleague opposite was talking about going from a peaceful protest to a riot. I assume from your remarks you have talked to a number of law enforcement people. It seems to me this is something they have to call frequently when matters get out of hand, where something may start peacefully—often, they do start peacefully—and then turn into a riot. Did you find any difficulty with what they were saying to you in terms of when they distinguish one from the other?