Certainly what I have seen in my career as a police officer is that these are very rare occurrences, as we have seen with the Hebert trial dropped down to an abduction charge.
There are certain crimes within the Criminal Code and within our society that are just not acceptable, period. One would be murder. One, in my opinion, would be the kidnapping of a child. It's not acceptable, period. It's not about trying to make the person better, it's about sending a message to that person that what they've done is wrong and our society will not accept that.
I can only speak for myself. Whether it be my children or my grandchildren, certainly if someone were to take one of my grandchildren and it was a stranger, I would suggest to you that I wouldn't be looking to that person to get better. There has to be something wrong with a person who takes a child they do not know, against the child's will. But for the luck of God in the Hebert case, the child was returned, but historically that does not happen.