I'd like to comment that we could do a lot better in a lot of areas of the Criminal Code. I think that's why Canadians are looking at our system and sometimes viewing it as too weak. I think there are improvements we can make.
In the case of the kidnapping of a child under 16 years of age by a stranger, I believe that by establishing a five-year minimum we are making a statement. We are drawing a line in the sand saying that our children are our most vulnerable citizens, and should you kidnap one of them under 16 years of age, this is the minimum you're going to look at.
Right now, we're standing with our hands in our pockets and we're accepting—let's go way out there—that somebody could get probation for kidnapping a child under 16. Now that's way out there, and I appreciate that. But I think, first of all, that this member's bill has created this discussion, which I think is very helpful—I know it's helpful in our community—but I think that we as the lawmakers and the law enforcement community have to draw that line in the sand and say, if you do this, you're looking at five years minimum.