That's sort of the point. It may be about public order and public perception, but quite unfortunately the evidence shows that mandatory minimum sentences don't deter; they don't prevent these crimes. If one ignores that evidence and one ignores the potential detrimental consequences of mandatory minimum sentences, and one ignores the fact that there really is no problem here because sentences to a large extent are greater than five years....
I should say that we're blessed with a great appellate system, a great review system. As well, we have a state, unlike some countries, that is well funded and is very competent and is able to review decisions that are incorrect. So if there is an improper use of judicial discretion, if there are facts that aren't taken into account, there is a review mechanism. We don't need, I submit, mandatory minimum sentences when the utility behind them simply isn't there and they run contrary to some of the fundamental principles of our justice system.