You've had many people, way more expert than I, who have been looking at what is likely to happen in terms of incarceration levels.
My focus is very much that there is a key element missing from a bill that is about safe communities, that is about reducing harm to victims, and that is about prevention. We see jurisdictions doing this, like Saskatchewan, like Alberta, but we need a much higher level of leadership in the federal government to make this happen, and if we do that we will not be talking about overuse of incarceration five to ten years from now.