I think my concern is very simple. There have only been debates about more or less punishment; there have not been debates about effective prevention. It was actually Bob Horner, the Conservative member of Parliament for Mississauga, who was the chair of the parliamentary committee that looked at what should be done. That was based on 1993 data.
We're now in 2011. We have World Health Organization data. We have the examples of the Scottish Violence Reduction Unit. We have the success of the Youth Justice Board. The World Health Organization has recognized the Fourth R as one of the three proven programs that reduce bullying and sexual assault in schools. We have many, many examples of things that are effective. I think it's important that we combine whatever we're going to do to be tough on criminals with being tough on causes.