Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Gill, a couple of times you referenced your discussions with the Boys and Girls Club in Winnipeg. I presume you're aware that the submission made by the Boys and Girls Clubs of Canada to this committee called for prevention and a rehabilitative approach. This was actually referenced in Mr. Jacob's question, although I think when he asked the question, there was a disconnect and you weren't able to answer it, so I want to bring you back to that.
Given that the Boys and Girls Clubs of Canada has put a submission before this committee calling for a rehabilitative approach and a prevention approach, I'd like your comments on how you can square what I presume is your statement of support by them, given that what you've opted for here by the adoption of a mandatory minimum sentence is an approach of retribution, discipline, or punishment.