Yes.
I think there's a lot to be said, from a lay perspective, for wanting to hold young people accountable. The present act talks about accountability and societal values.
It's very important that young people know they're being held accountable. Indeed, if anything, I'd like to see more victim involvement in the process so young people can hear from victims what they have done.
If we add the word “denunciation”, as the courts have said, it means if you in Parliament are telling us to denounce this conduct, you presumably want longer sentences. We're already holding them accountable. That must be the message you're sending out there.
Again, I worry that it's going to affect the behaviour of the courts without affecting the behaviour of young people or changing society.