Kyle Seeback at the Justice and Human Rights Committee

I agree.

I'd rather see it be 25 years than five, I want to make that very clear.

I thought you might know from your experience with sentencing and other areas whether or not making this consecutive is going to be the answer to making this far more serious. Or, if perhaps another tool that we've used a number of times with legislation, which is a mandatory minimum penalty, is the answer.