My other question is for Mr. Summerville, and Lori, if I may.
Mr. Summerville, you spoke about what you termed “stigmatizing measures” in the bill, and Lori you said the bill is “very stigmatizing and punitive”.
I wonder if you could each spend a little time elaborating, perhaps with examples, on why you think the measures in the bill are stigmatizing.
I'll start with you, Mr. Summerville, please.