Now, this particular bill I think deals with young offenders on the basis of rehabilitation, as we must deal with it, but as I heard time and time again in aboriginal sentencing circles, from parents and from lawyers, including defence lawyers, the reality is that we need to get the youth into the system. Once we get them into the system in front of the court, the court can then deal with them.
If I can just tell you a story, I had a judge, Judge Peck, who was in the court--