I think that's fair to say. I would take it even further and say that if you look at the cost to society and the economy of organized crime, those offences that are committed by chronic offenders, and the cost it takes to investigate organized crime and to investigate the chronic offenders so we can get them before a judge to see if we can get a conviction, those costs are more significant, I would argue, than the costs that everybody seems to be talking about with respect to Bill C-10 and the incarceration piece.
On November 1st, 2011. See this statement in context.