I need to go back to 2009 and to my involvement in that respect.
With regard to the aggressiveness of their tactics, as you said, it was private property, private docks, at any time of day. Regardless of whether the owner was there or not, they were doing their business, they were unloading, they were moving on. That's how aggressive it was.
On the operational piece, we were on the highways, on Highway 401, etc.—