Several of you talked about immunity, and that's been the subject of much conversation in other committee hearings as well. I don't know if you're going to be able to help me with this. This question is for Mr. Geist and for Mr. Turk as well.
Why is it there? Was it at the behest of the telephone companies? What motivated the insertion of the immunity—especially when the government says that it doesn't mean anything and that it was already there—into this bill? I'd like to hear from both of you on that, please.