I think there are some exceptions to that, but I take your point.
I'm a little taken aback, because, look, the very object of this is to put an end to paid sex, and we've heard time and time again that prostitution is equal to human trafficking. You know, there have been very few convictions on human trafficking laws—it's very recent—but I'm told there are 187 cases before the court. So we have the aspect of 213, which basically I guess would permit to charge the women. We've heard the testimony of many police officers, Mrs. Pond being one of them. Okay, they charge them to separate them from the pimp to get their testimony, to basically form the foundation of an exit strategy for the women.
If we don't have that power, what is the most persuasive way for aboriginal women to somehow get out of the market, to have that exit strategy? Please don't say “more money”. Specifically, are there programs in your mind that are effective?