Yes. Thank you.
Mr. Sullivan, I remember your testifying here on the victims bill of rights. There's a recurring theme here, that there should be a greater emphasis on resources and less on drafting. I think that's essentially what I heard you say today.
In that vein, my thought on the goal of there being fewer victims is that instead of looking after the offence, we should be looking farther upstream, in education, mental health, poverty reduction, those sorts of things.
I'd like your thoughts on what's most effective in there being fewer victims, in what we see with these amendments to the Criminal Code and the lengthening of sentences as opposed to other programs you think would be more effective in creating fewer victims.