Thank you very much for the question.
Respectfully, I don't think the Gladue principles are being applied across Canada. That's the problem. It's not so much that they aren't working; it's that they are not being applied by Corrections Canada or other institutions that should be doing so.
That's what I observe, and I think that's the best way to answer that question. I know Mr. Howard Sapers, and he did....
So thank you.