Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I want to thank my distinguished colleague for asking that question, which is not a theoretical one. It's an important question for everyone and for all the bills we have introduced in Parliament.
I would say that in examining the Nur case, as my friend has said, we obviously look at the entire decision of the court, including the dissenting opinion, but what came from that decision, as she's alluded to, is that mandatory minimum penalties were in no way ruled out as an option for Criminal Code sanctions. They were, however, limited in the specific case based on the facts before the court that dealt with penalties around firearms.
I would suggest that some of the interesting dicta that came from that case also talked about the importance of not stretching credulity. That is to say, that the reasonable hypotheticals were viewed by some of the judges as not being, quite frankly, reasonable, according to some of those—