Again, you have to look at the other part of the equation too, at the victims, who in this case are Leanne and her children. They're looking at it and they want to see fair consequences for the action. You can't replace Ben. You never will. But when you hear that the person gets two years less a day and only a hundred-dollar fine, that's not acceptable either. You have to find that balance.
Again, I'm just telling you what I'm hearing in talking to different driving instructors and to people who say that this would have an impact in reducing the amount of drinking and driving.