As I said, it can be a gradual thing, or a graduating thing. You get involved in illegal cigarettes and it doesn't seem so bad, and the next thing, you don't know what may be offered. As I explained as well, the organized crime groups that are typically involved in cigarette trafficking are not only involved in cigarette trafficking, but also are involved in other types of contraband. It could be a possibility.
On December 5th, 2013. See this statement in context.