So noted. That is one way to do it, with express permission from people, if that's in the legislation. The other way to do it with existing provisions is for an access to information request to occur before the record is expunged, and then you have both sets of data. That would require no legislative change in the current present form.
Thank you, Ron. I really appreciate your testimony.
Mr. Chair, do I have a minute? I need to go to Mr. Rudin.
Mr. Rudin, I want to understand how decriminalizing the administrative provisions is so helpful to the community from the Aboriginal Legal Services' perspective. Also, with regard to applying the Gladue principles to bail, in which jurisdictions will that be able to be evenly applied? I'm referring specifically to administration of justice offences.