Thanks to both of you for coming.
I want to start, if I may, with you, Ms. Rogin. I'm interested in the number of non-represented people who are in the provincial courts. I don't know if I saw it in your brief, but as of a couple of years ago in my province of British Columbia, 21% of all criminal accused had no lawyer. They were unrepresented in provincial court.
Do you have any idea how many people currently are unrepresented? What impact would this section have on a person's ability to get representation if paralegals and articling students are not allowed?