Thank you so much, Mr. Kettles and Mr. Roach, for your testimony.
Habitually, everybody would come up and shake your hand, but since you're not here, just know that we've all shaken your hand and we really appreciate the insight you've given the committee. Thank you.
I'd like to ask the people from our next panel, Mr. Friedman and Ms. MacDonnell, to please come forward so that we can move to the next panel as quickly as possible.
Thank you so much.
We'll take a brief, one-minute recess, so people can grab a drink or something.