Evidence of meeting #113 for Justice and Human Rights in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was agreed.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Shannon Davis-Ermuth  Legal Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Policy Sector, Department of Justice
Tony Clement  Parry Sound—Muskoka, CPC
Arif Virani  Parkdale—High Park, Lib.
Matthew Taylor  Acting Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Policy Sector, Department of Justice
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Olivier Champagne

6:55 p.m.

Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair, for your comments.

I would like to do a roll call, but before that I think it's important to note for clarity's sake that what we're doing here repeals the bawdy house provisions from the Criminal Code, and that other steps would need to be taken to allow people to apply for expungement, which is a separate process, but so noted.

6:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Yes. It wouldn't require legislation, though, it would require only—

6:55 p.m.

Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

It requires a schedule addition to existing legislation.

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 9; nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

6:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you, colleagues. I very much appreciate it.

As a result, CPC-42 would not be able to be moved, as we repealed the section it was seeking to amend. There are no other amendments to clause 75, so I suggest we vote on clause 75 as amended, and then go back to section 4.

6:55 p.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Olivier Champagne

It's a new clause.

6:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Okay then, we don't have to vote on it, and we can go back to clause 66.

Mr. Clement, we're on CPC-34, in clause 66.

October 24th, 2018 / 7 p.m.

Parkdale—High Park, Lib.

Arif Virani

Mr. Chair, I think we're at clause 65.1.

7 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

All of the amendments in clause 65.1 are considered adopted by adopting LIB-6. The clerk has advised me they are all interlinked and we can move to clause 66 now.

Mr. Cooper.

(On clause 66)

7 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

This is an amendment dealing with hybridization. Bill C-75 would take from an indictable to a hybrid the offence under section 184(1) of wilfully intercepting a private communication. This amendment would maintain this offence as solely an indictable offence.

7 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Okay, perfect. Any comments or questions on that?

Not hearing any, we will move to a vote on CPC-34.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 66 agreed to)

(On clause 67)

We are at clause 67, CPC-35, and that would be Mr. Cooper.

7 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Thank you, Chair.

This is an amendment dealing with hybridization in Bill C-75.

I would maintain this specific offence as a solely indictable offence. That offence relates to the interception of radio-based telephone communication.

7 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you very much.

Anybody wishing to speak to that? If not, we're going to move to a vote on CPC-35.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 67 agreed to)

(Clause 68 agreed to)

(On clause 69)

We move to CPC-36.

Mr. Cooper.

7 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Thank you, Chair.

It's another amendment dealing with hybridization under Bill C-75.

This would maintain what is currently a solely indictable offence to remain a solely indictable offence.

That relates to proposed subsection 191(1). It makes it an offence for anyone to possess, sell or purchase any electromagnetic, or other device or component, primarily for the surreptitious interception of private communications.

7 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you very much. Is there any discussion?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 69 agreed to)

(On clause 70)

Now we have CPC-37.

Mr. Cooper.

7 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

It's an amendment dealing with hybridization to maintain what is solely an indictable offence to remain a solely indictable offence related to the disclosure of information.

7 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you very much. Does anyone wish to speak to that?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 70 agreed to)

(On clause 71)

Now we have CPC-38.

Mr. Cooper.

7 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Again, it's hybridization, a reclassification under Bill C-75.

This would maintain as a solely indictable offence, the subject offence relating to the disclosure of information received from interception of radio-based telephone communication.

7 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you very much. Does anyone wish to speak to that?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 71 agreed to)

The new clause 71.1 is already dealt with by the adoption of LIB-6. This is related to the bawdy house.

(On clause 72)

We move to CPC-39, under clause 72.

That will be Mr. Cooper.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

This is again a matter dealing with the reclassification of offences from indictable to hybrid.

This amendment maintains what is solely an indictable offence to remain a solely indictable offence. That offence relates to keeping a gaming or betting house.

7:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

I'm just checking one thing.

The amendments that we made already to the definitions of the gaming and betting house don't touch any of these lines. I wanted to make sure, because we've amended the definition in that clause.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 72 agreed to)

(On clause 73)

Now we move to CPC-40.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Again, this is an amendment related to the reclassification, to maintain as a solely indictable offence an offence in relation to lotteries.

7:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Is there any comment on that?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 73 agreed to)

(On clause 74)

On clause 74, we have CPC-41.

Mr. Cooper.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Again, this is an amendment related to maintaining what is an indictable offence to remain a solely indictable offence. That related to section 209, which Bill C-75 proposes to hybridize. Proposed section 209 relates to “Cheating at play”.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 74 agreed to)

(On clause 75)

7:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

We passed LIB-6 and X-49, which were identical. Basically we've already dealt with clause 75 through LIB-6 and X-49. This was the repeal of bawdy house, and adding the clause.

I asked before if we voted on the clause. You said we didn't need to.

7:05 p.m.

The Clerk

I thought you meant the new clause.