Evidence of meeting #114 for Justice and Human Rights in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Carole Morency  Director General and Senior General Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Policy Sector, Department of Justice
Matthew Taylor  Acting Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Policy Sector, Department of Justice
Shannon Davis-Ermuth  Legal Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Policy Sector, Department of Justice

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Mr. Chair, this is another reclassification amendment. This amendment would make the offence of fraudulent registration of title a strictly indictable offence, as it presently is, unlike what Bill C-75 proposes to do, which is to make it a hybrid offence.

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Is there any discussion?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 145 agreed to)

(On clause 146)

We move on to CPC-89.

Mr. Cooper, go ahead.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Mr. Chair, CPC-89 would maintain the offence of fraudulent sale of real property as a strictly indictable offence.

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you very much.

Is there any discussion?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 146 agreed to)

(On clause 147)

Next, we have CPC-90.

Mr. Cooper, go ahead.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Again, Mr. Chair, this amendment would maintain the offence of misleading receipt to be a solely indictable offence.

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Is there any discussion?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 147 agreed to)

(On clause 148)

We move on to CPC-91.

Go ahead, Mr. Cooper.

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Chair, CPC-91 would maintain the offence of fraudulent disposal of goods on which money is advanced as a solely indictable offence, as opposed to Bill C-75, which would make it a hybrid offence.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you very much.

Is there any discussion?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 148 agreed to)

(On clause 149)

Next is CPC-92.

Mr. Cooper, go ahead.

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Chair, again, this is a reclassification amendment. This particular amendment would maintain the offence of fraudulent receipts under the Bank Act to be a strictly indictable offence.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Is there any discussion?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 149 agreed to)

(On clause 150)

On clause 150, we have CPC-93.

Mr. Cooper, go ahead.

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

CPC-93 would make the offence of disposal of property to defraud creditors as a solely indictable offence, as opposed to a hybrid offence as proposed by Bill C-75.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Is there any discussion?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 150 agreed to)

(On clause 151)

Next, we have CPC-94.

Mr. Cooper, go ahead.

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Mr. Chair, this is another reclassification amendment, which would maintain the offence of fraud in relation to fares as a strictly indictable offence, as opposed to a hybrid offence, which Bill C-75 reclassifies it as.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Is there any discussion on CPC-94?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 151 agreed to)

There is no amendment on clause 152, because X-110 is not relevant. Clause 319 remained as it was.

It's the same with clause 153, because X-111 was not maintained as a result.

(Clauses 152 to 154 inclusive agreed to on division)

(On clause 155)

We move on to CPC-95.

Mr. Cooper, go ahead.

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

CPC-95 deals with an offence in relation to mines. This would maintain that offence as a strictly indictable offence, as opposed to a hybridized offence as proposed by Bill C-75.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Is there any discussion?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 155 agreed to)

(On clause 156)

Next we have CPC-96.

Go ahead, Mr. Cooper.

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

This is a reclassification amendment. The offence at issue relates to anyone who, with intent to defraud, destroys or mutilates books or documents. Bill C-75 would make that offence a hybrid offence. It's currently an indictable offence. We think it should stay that way.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you very much.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 156 agreed to)

(On clause 157)

We now move to CPC-97.

Mr. Cooper, go ahead.

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Mr. Chair, this offence, which Bill C-75 would reclassify, relates to a false return by a public officer. We think this is a serious offence and it should be maintained as an indictable offence.

I'd ask for a recorded vote on this one.

1:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Is there any further discussion?

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 157 agreed to)

(On clause 158)

I just want to get through to clause159, and then we're going to break. I want to make sure everybody can get there for member statements.

On clause 158, we have CPC-98.

Go ahead, Mr. Cooper.

1:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Again, it's a reclassification amendment, dealing with false prospectus.

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Is there any discussion?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 158 agreed to)

(On clause 159)

Mr. Cooper, we have CPC-99.

1:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

It's another reclassification amendment. This one deals with the offence of acknowledging an instrument in a false name. We would propose that it be maintained as a solely indictable offence.

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Is there any discussion?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 159 agreed to)

(On clause 160)

This is the last amendment we will do, CPC-100.

Mr. Cooper, go ahead.

1:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Chair, this amendment would maintain the offence of applying or removing marks without authority as a solely indictable offence.