Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to both of the witnesses for joining us today.
It's been a theme in hearing testimony that it's clandestine in nature. Obviously, people keep these activities secret because they're heinous—to put it bluntly. Hearing descriptions of animal fighting, of child abuse involving animals and of bestiality is shocking.
I think that makes it hard to address as a society, because people don't know about it. We don't want to talk about it, because even at the highest level it's awful.
For both bestiality and animal fighting, do you see a need for, or would you support, the government undertaking an awareness campaign on both subjects? That has been undertaken in recent years on things like online exploitation of children, but it would be specifically with these two issues of animal fighting and bestiality.