Okay, so that wasn't so hard to say.
I'm wondering if I could read to you, Mr. Wernick, what Jody Wilson-Raybould said in her testimony. She said:
The Clerk of the Privy Council would have known on the September 17 meeting because I specifically mentioned it to both him and the Prime Minister, and went into detail about the section 13 notice that I received. Again, I was very clear that I had already made my decision around the deferred prosecution agreement and not intervening.
There is no reason not to take that as a fact, is there?