Well, thank you for cutting me off, Clerk, but as I was going to say, I think it's incredibly pertinent. You must have had knowledge of it because you gave us almost a verbatim right now about what the content of that telephone call was.
Can you not see how disturbing this could be for Canadians to see that former clerks who are now chairs of boards of SNC-Lavalin have easy access and immediate access into the central office of this government, into your office, when you turned down everybody else and walked out of a gala because you didn't want to see SNC anymore? Do you not see that as a problem for this country?