Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. After Mr. Boissonnault's rapid-fire questions, I think we all need to take a deep breath.
I do want to say that I know the justice committee has to look at extreme cases, but I don't think this is the point in our deliberations where we should be looking at the extreme cases. What we're trying to do, I believe at this point, is give some shape to what the reform is going to look like and how the reform might proceed. I think that there is an inadvertent danger in focusing on those marginal cases, that we actually contribute to the stigmatization and marginalization again.
As I've said before, I'm a gay man of a certain age, and I've lived all my life with gay men who are trying to do evil in society, and it is particularly true, I think, in the black community as well.
Towards the end of your presentation, Ms. Klinck—