Sure. Those specific constituents, the worst of the worst—I can't think of a better expression—individuals in our society who are incarcerated for that length of time for these extremely heinous crimes, are not interested in rehabilitation. They're psychopaths. Psychopathy is a science that we are still learning about. We hear numbers that anywhere from 2% to 5% of our society are psychopaths.
Not in the Criminal Code or the CCRA or in any of the legislation that we currently have in this country are there provisions that are able to deal effectively with psychopaths, people whose prime objective is their own self-gratification. That's why we need extended periods of parole ineligibility. These are the individuals who can convince anybody. They can convince even the most seasoned forensic psychiatrist or psychologist that there's absolutely nothing wrong and that they're completely normal. Once they return to society, their existing behaviour will continue. They're not interested in any of these things.
Especially with some young offenders who I believe are psychopaths, are they interested in rehabilitation or learning? They're not. They refuse, and part of the prison release system that we have in Canada is that it's not mandatory for any individual to complete a rehabilitation program. They can say, “No, I don't want to”, and they can say that for the duration of their incarceration, yet they can still be released into our society.
I hope that answers your question.