The way I would respond to that, Ron, is to say that if Canada would be in contravention of international legal obligations, then so, too, would Australia and France.
In terms of the second part of your question of why we have two charges and why we can't simply merge them, perhaps this is an issue the committee could look at. We do have established legislation in section 269.1 that deals with state offences. However, there is another aspect. Torture can take place in the private realm as well. With that in mind, I think it makes sense to look at this in a more complex way. The world is shaded in grey, as I said before. Torture can be a state crime, or it can take place in the private domain. That needs to be acknowledged, hence the view that we should have two understandings. If you wanted to merge them, perhaps this is something the committee could discuss.