For my next question, I'll get all three of you to respond, starting with you, Mr. Ferguson, because it was your report. In your “Reaching Equal Justice” report, on page 52, you go into detail on the costs to society and so on.
For the record, from all three of you, I want some of the personal experiences you've seen of the cascading effects when we don't fund legal aid properly and what that result is for society. As you mentioned, we tend to look at these things in silos, but it's important that they don't happen in a vacuum. It's a holistic approach. If we can save money in other areas by directing this targeted funding, I'd love to hear your feedback on that.