I think that part of the piece.... Mr. Nicholson's questions alluded to this earlier, in terms of where the provinces are going to be on this if you're going to say.... Is it “We just want more money; leave it to us to spend”? I think, in fairness, that's often what everybody's heard.
I think the reality is that it's time to change the conversation. If you don't mind, I'm going to turn the question on its side for a minute and say that when I'm working in other countries people really have a difficult time understanding how we could have 13 different justice systems in Canada—14 actually. They have that difficulty, and I think Canadians do, too.
We have a sense of what ought to be basic standards, just as we do with health care. I think that model of our emotional attachment to health care and what we think and feel about it is what we need to bring to the discussion of how justice works in Canada. I think it's all doable. I think we're pretty good at it.
I will send you the material that I believe provides that standard. I do want to stress, though, that you can't do that at the current level of funding, so the discussion about what the priorities would be, and in what order they would come forward.... To Mr. Fraser's question about our financial eligibility and the extent of services being separate issues. They sure are, and they have different cost implications.