In the interests of time—I know I have a limited amount, and thank you for that answer—I want to turn to Ms. Pentz from the Canadian Bar Association, and at the same time to Mr. De Luca and ask a very simple question.
You both have made the statement that this legislation is suspect according to sections 8 and 9, and it won't be saved by section 1 of the charter, to which I say, all right, let the courts decide. Sure there's going to be uncertainty, as you point out, with interpretation and the constitutionality. What if the Minister of Justice did a reference case to the Supreme Court of Canada? Put it all out there and let them decide. Wouldn't that be the way to avoid the kinds of concerns that you've expressed? Let the courts say right away what the answer is.