Absolutely. I think perception is important. There's a perception communities may have where they feel it's not accessible. That may or may not be the case. But I think also in terms of what can sometimes be a bureaucratic structure within universities is very problematic.
It's important that the court challenges program, if it is a stand-alone organization, has the administrative dollars to operate properly. No one is getting rich off this program, and in the past they struggled. Currently it's set at a 25% fee, but they have to have those resources. It has to be within a setting, a climate.... If we want to encourage community and we want to bring in community and we want to involve community, how it's structured and where it's placed is very important, and it being stand-alone is very important.