I think what the clerk has raised makes sense, but I'm going to piggyback on a few things. One is that there's an old phrase in law that you can't do through the back door what you are impeded from doing through the front door. If you start getting into situations where you're disclosing not just how people voted in camera but what they voted on in camera, then it would render a bit futile the notion of going in camera, right?
The same argument is made in a legal context when you're disclosing billable hours and what you talked.... There's a lot of fertile litigation about how you describe what the billing was for, because in being too detailed in the description, you're disclosing solicitor-client privilege, which is very much sacrosanct to the work of a lawyer.
The work of a committee, when it's being done in camera for very sensitive reasons—some of which were outlined by Mr. Garrison—equally needs to be protected, so we can have those robust and frank discussions that need to take place in certain contexts in a confidential manner.
So I would have some concerns about the latter part of the motion, including not just publishing the results of a vote but also publishing the results of what was voted upon, because that is effectively, to my mind, doing through the back door what we can't do through the front door.
There are two other things that I would raise for the clerk and for all of us to ponder. The first part of Mr. Garrison's motion think makes a lot of sense, but there are times when we discuss witness selection, and that is something that we would want to see protected in the in camera context.
As an additional matter, there is the issue of personal confidential information, as you can imagine. We did a study in this committee on human trafficking. There are times when people might be testifying here when, because of the sensitive nature of what they've experienced and sensitivity to victims, we wouldn't want that personal confidential information entering the public domain.
That's some food for thought that I put on the record now.