Thank you very much, Chair.
Justice Kent, Justice MacDonald, thank you so much for coming to be with us today.
I am detecting the struggle that both of you are having with the subject, because I know you want to maintain the principle of judicial independence, and you've stressed very much that these educational programs are happening. They're being led by judges, and that's the way it should be, but at the same time, we as the people's representatives have heard from our constituents and from Canadian society that there is this loss of faith in our justice system.
We see judges who have quite recently used discredited myths and stereotypes when making their rulings. They've used insensitive language.
I guess I just want to tack onto the last line of questioning. You've made your proposed amendments to Bill C-5. Is it your view that this bill is necessary? You've talked about the laudable goals of Bill C-5, but are you quite happy with the bill being presented to us? Is Parliament fulfilling its obligation with it?