No. Based on our understanding of paragraph 320.101(b), conversations are covered. Conversations are not the problem—at least I don't believe they are—but rather exploratory psychotherapy.
As Dr. Cantor and Dr. Zucker Explained, children ought not to be self-diagnosing gender dysphoria. They need to have access to psychotherapy, which does not necessarily include biomedicalization.
In other words, our major concern is that parents and children should have access to psychotherapy which does not necessarily include biomedicalization. We would like such psychotherapy, without biomedicalization, to be permitted and not criminalized by the bill.
Many young ladies who suffer from autism or personality disorders end up in gender clinics. They represent a new clientele. I would also like to hear Dr. Cantor on this subject. They self-diagnose gender dysphoria. The bill would appear to indicate that a psychologist has no choice but to corroborate this information, even though patients might be suffering from something else.