In my last 90 seconds, I just want to put to you something that has arisen, because people have said that it seems like it's conversion therapy masquerading under another guise. We heard on Tuesday that under gender reassignment counselling that may take place, people are actually being led down a path of conversion therapy. We heard it again this morning from Erika Muse's testimony.
How do we get at that pernicious issue? We know what we're trying to target. We also know that the counselling we've talked about needs to be enabled to occur. People need to be able to ask genuine questions and explore identities. How do we ensure that we're targeting exactly conversion therapy, and not more and not less? Do you have any thoughts on that?