Thank you, Madam Chair.
You're always the one having to answer my questions, so I wouldn't want you to take it as harassment. The fact of the matter is you have insightful expertise.
On this issue, I think the challenge revolves around distinguishing between behaviours that the Criminal Code already covers and those that it does not. Take, for example, a conversation between spouses, although they may not be spouses, I realize. One or both sides are being stubborn, shall we say, and the conversation becomes fairly intense but does not rise to the level of a criminal offence. The discussion gets more heated, both sides dig in their heels and the situation turns into what could be called harassment. If things escalate, verbal or physical abuse could come into play.
I'm having a hard time figuring out at what point in that progression the behaviour would be considered coercive and controlling. I know you've been asked the question a lot, but I think it's hugely important. How is the line drawn between behaviour that is acceptable under the law, behaviour that is coercive and controlling, behaviour that is considered harassment and violence? That is my first question.
Before you answer, I'll ask my second question because the clock is ticking. I'd like to know your view on how each of the three situations—harassment, violence and controlling or coercive conduct—would be dealt with. If the behaviour were deemed a criminal offence, how would the sentencing differ in each of the three cases? How should each be defined so that the differences are clear and distinctive enough for a judge to navigate these types of matters easily?
If you don't think you'll have enough time to answer my questions now, with the chair's permission, I would ask, like my fellow members, that you get back to me in writing.
Please go ahead, Ms. Levman.