Evidence of meeting #8 for Justice and Human Rights in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Marc-Olivier Girard
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Joanne Klineberg  Acting General Counsel, Department of Justice

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Mr. Zuberi, you can't call the question.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

My apologies.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Yes, Madame Findlay, did I hear a point of order? You are also next on the speakers list, coincidentally, so go ahead.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Kerry-Lynne Findlay Conservative South Surrey—White Rock, BC

First of all, that was my point of order, that I didn't think it was appropriate for my colleague to call the question.

Second, under Standing Order 116(2), the debate cannot be brought to an end until everyone who wants to participate is heard from. If this is a very important issue, it's a very important amendment. There was a whole list of people who wanted to speak, which suddenly disappeared when it seemed we had to end the meeting, and I really think we need to hear from everyone under that standing order. We have a couple of hours set aside. Those hours have expired. We have a member who had to leave and I'm sure the rest of us also have other commitments.

We really should just pick this up on Thursday, finish the participation from the members, vote and move forward.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Kelloway Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

I have a point of order, Madam Chair.

I read the green book that has been distributed to us on a regular basis. My understanding is that the meeting doesn't automatically end at one o'clock. Is that correct? I just want to clarify that. It doesn't end exactly at one o'clock.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Madam Chair, further to that point, my understanding is that the meeting ends when the committee members deem it to end, and if there's an absence that is occasioned by a particular party, it is up to that party to find a suitable replacement.

Absent a motion to adjourn, we may continue.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Madam Chair, I'd move the motion to adjourn.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Mr. Cooper has just moved a motion to adjourn, and because it's a dilatory motion we'll go to a vote right away.

Mr. Clerk, could you call the vote, please?

Just on a technicality, Mr. Cooper's motion was on a point of order, so it is out of order.

Mr. Cooper, would you like to move that motion so that it's not in a point of order?

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Yes, okay.

To be in full compliance, I will now so move the motion.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Thank you very much.

Mr. Clerk, go ahead.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kerry-Lynne Findlay Conservative South Surrey—White Rock, BC

I have a point of order, Madam Chair.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Sorry, Madame Findlay. We're just voting on this dilatory motion right now. Thank you.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kerry-Lynne Findlay Conservative South Surrey—White Rock, BC

It's a technical issue, Madam Chair.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

What's going on?

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Kerry-Lynne Findlay Conservative South Surrey—White Rock, BC

Mr. Moore cannot get in with his video. He's trying to. I don't want his vote to not be counted because of a technical issue. If you could just give a moment to let him get back on.... He can hear the meeting, I'm told, but he can't be seen, and I believe he has to be seen to have his vote counted.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

You are correct, Madame Findlay.

We'll just suspend for 30 seconds as we wait for Mr. Moore to rejoin us. Could we have somebody from IT connect with Mr. Moore to ensure that he's well supported for IT purposes?

Mr. Maloney, go ahead.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

I'm sympathetic to people who have technical difficulties, but Mr. Moore signed off on the meeting.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Oh, he's back. I see that Mr. Moore is back.

Go ahead, Mr. Clerk.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)

The motion carries.

The meeting is now adjourned. Thank you, members.