Evidence of meeting #104 for Justice and Human Rights in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was students.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Rachel Cook  Student, As an Individual
Michael Eshayek  Student, As an Individual
Nicole Nashen  Student, As an Individual
Neil G. Oberman  Attorney, As an Individual
Nati Pressmann  Founder, Canadian Union of Jewish Students
Yos Tarshish  Director, Hillel Queen's, Hillel Ontario

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Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

In the course of your experience, have you heard the Jewish people accused of exaggerating the Holocaust?

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Student, As an Individual

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Attorney, As an Individual

Neil G. Oberman

I'm also going to answer that question because it wasn't directed to the students.

The problem that we've seen is that people use social media to put out falsehoods and narratives in order to support and fuel their hatred. The answer is not only yes, but look at the law: The law prohibits it, but nobody is enforcing it, and that's the problem.

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Founder, Canadian Union of Jewish Students

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Student, As an Individual

Michael Eshayek

Yes, several times.

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Student, As an Individual

Rachel Cook

Yes—and openly deny.

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Director, Hillel Queen's, Hillel Ontario

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Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

In the course of your experience, have you heard people celebrate October 7 and celebrate Hamas?

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Student, As an Individual

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Attorney, As an Individual

Neil G. Oberman

They not only celebrate it but also strategize on how to use it as a tool to continue to oppress not only these students but anybody who loves democracy and freedom. It is happening in our country right now, and it's regrettable.

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Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

Thank you.

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Founder, Canadian Union of Jewish Students

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Student, As an Individual

Michael Eshayek

Again, “Last night, the resistance in Gaza led a heroic attack against the occupation and has taken over 30 hostages.” I don't even need to read it because I remember it. It was on October 8 by SPHR Concordia. SPHR Concordia is still a club, and the students are still students with no consequences.

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Student, As an Individual

Rachel Cook

I will never forget hearing, on October 8, the chant, “There are no civilians”.

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Director, Hillel Queen's, Hillel Ontario

Yos Tarshish

It's incredibly concerning. I would also point you to the fact that Jewish students are seeing....

I'm sorry. I had something, and it's gone.

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Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

Have you heard that individuals have tried to diminish or suggest that these are isolated incidents? Is that consistent with what you've seen?

In other words, is this pervasive? Is this occurring consistently, daily, in your schools, in your communities?

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Student, As an Individual

Nicole Nashen

In March, at McGill University, someone walked around campus for over four hours with a sign that said, “On October 7, Israel massacred its own people to justify genocide”.

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Attorney, As an Individual

Neil G. Oberman

Social media has been used to continue with this false narrative.

By the way, in our injunctions, a majority of our evidence emanated from their own videos in which they glorify hatred and violence. Then I have to show it to a judge so that the judge understands what's going on.

The answer is yes, yes, and it's unfortunate.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab

Thank you, Mr. Mendicino.

Now we will go to Mr. Fortin.

Mr. Fortin, you have the floor for two and a half minutes.

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Bloc

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

We don't have more time than that? We have another half hour, Madam Chair. We can do a complete round, right?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab

It depends.

9:45 a.m.

Bloc

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Okay, fine.

I heard your answers to the questions asked by my colleague, Mr. Mendicino. I would like to know one thing.

In your opinion, how should the university respond to this behaviour?

Ms. Nashen, go ahead.

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Student, As an Individual

Nicole Nashen

They just need to implement their own policies.

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Bloc

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

How? What concrete action should the university take?

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Student, As an Individual

Nicole Nashen

For the past week and a half, I have received an email from McGill University every single day saying that there was an illegal encampment at our university. Having said that, a week and a half later, it's still there.