I thank the honourable member for his question. Thank you, Rob, if I may.
Yes, we are going to disagree quite strongly on this. I think what is an affront is the continuation of a so-called “tough on crime” policy that has so clearly failed in Canada. It has so clearly failed in the United States. It has so clearly failed in countries like Great Britain. It is being abandoned everywhere. It would be an affront to keep going with that without looking at the evidence and without assessing the impact that these minimum mandatory penalties and the lack of conditional sentence orders are having on the system.
That's what we're trying to do. I don't know where you're—