Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the witnesses.
I will address my questions to Mr. Barnum.
You cited in your testimony that since the passage of Bill C-10, adding that section to the Criminal Code has been an important tool for law enforcement. Given your extensive background in law enforcement and tackling organized crime, I would be interested in your comments related to the mandatory minimum aspect of Bill C-10 as it pertains to the trafficking of contraband tobacco.
We've heard a number of witnesses who simply say that mandatory minimums don't work, that they're ineffective and increase recidivism. Is that your experience? I presume it's quite the contrary.